HUUM Sauna Heaters
Also, if you are going to pour water on the rocks and care if your steam quality is sharp or soft then getting the right HUUM rocks can also be a problem.
BUYER BEWARE - IF YOU DO NOT TEMPER YOUR ROCKS THEY CAN EXPLODE - MAKE SURE ALL OF YOUR ROCKS ARE AIRTIGHT IF YOU PLAN ON TURNING IT UP TO 230 AND POURING WATER ON THE ROCKS. If you don't temper them and there is a problem and just say you have a Hive heater and bought 17 boxes of rocks... you will have to buy another 17 boxes and replace EVERY SINGLE rock if you used the sauna and poured water first without tempering the rocks.,
Consumer notice: If buying a HUUM heater do not buy if not using thermally treated wood or wood with resins. If building your own sauna I offer Prosaunas brand wood. I strongly recommend either Dundalk or Saunalife as these have the highest R values and no resins and are both thermally treated wood. If getting a Harvia or a heater that goes up to around 195 degrees you should be fine with any brand. That is why Almost Heaven saunas has no problems with resin problems. If you put a HUUM in their saunas.... you get the point.
Most people who buy a Saunalife sauna get the drop heater. Be aware that their are 2 different versions of this heater and you won't be able to tell as it is not disclosed. There are thousands of versions with the element separators built into the Huum drop heater and some come with the heat reflector to protect the wall and some don't. I know the dealers who have the older model before they changed over to the newer style. Just like some dealers still charge people extra for the air tunnel that now comes with the Hive heaters. The older ones didn't. Beware of dealers that still try to charge people extra for the air tunnel when they know it comes with it standard now.
HUUM introduced an upgrade kit for the DROP heater to fix issues with heating elements touching, bending, and melting. The updates include a heating element separator (or retainer) that locks the coils in place to maintain safe spacing, alongside a heat reflector/diverter that protects the wall and optimizes heat
If getting a HUUM heater make sure you get the right sauna because if you turn the heater up to 230 degrees most saunas will trap the heat at the top. I know which saunas you can get away with having a 195 degree heater and which saunas you need to make special arrangements if getting a HUUM but only if you are going to go higher than 195.
Also, if the HUUM heater when cranked up high is too close to the wall or bench I know when and when not to get a reflector. You might have to order a reflector for the wall and one for the bench - yes, 2 of them. I will make sure to let you know if you need them or not.
Also, if the ceiling height is a certain height taller you can get away with oversizing but if there is a smaller distance it can char the ceiling or burn the house down. Please ask me about this when you call. About 10% of callers end up getting this wrong and should return their heater if the wrong size was bought. Oversizing is a huge problem with certain buyers. I won't mention the age but it is not Generation X. I rarely if ever have wrong size returns from my generation. With a phone call and actually talking to someone who knows what they are doing makes all the difference. Anyone in their 50's and 60's should know exactly which generation I am referring to.
Remember, super heated air at 230 degrees has very low oxygen and the oxygen in the sauna falls to the floor an at breathing level it can be very low even if on the first level bench. If you wanna find out for yourself just buy a CO2 meter on Amazon for 50 bucks and see for yourself. A floor fan will fix this problem. Make sure it is a DC 12 volt marine fan. I can show you the ones I like best if you are interested. I always tell people...try a session with the fan and without the fan bringing that oxygen rich floor air up into the air. See how many more minutes it takes for you to get into cardiac drift when using the fan. If you don't want a fan and want to keep a bottle of Boost oxygen in the sauna. That can help you stay in longer past the point when you normally want to get out as it keeps your oxygen level closer to 99% on the pulse oximeter. I have a huge 8 foot bag I fill up with 99% oxygen and use that. It is much cheaper than bottles of oxygen and
Things to know before BUYING A HUUM HEATER:
HUUM HEATERS ARE NOT FOR EVERYONE -
I have been selling the box heaters for years and there has not been a problem. Now that the USA has approved the new SGS certification, heaters can now legally be turned up to 230 degrees, not 195 degrees which every heater maxes out at no matter what the brand. The HUUM heater is the first electric heater ever to be allowed in the USA that can go over 195 degrees.
WARNING: if you do get a HUUM heater and you even once try to experience it at its highest setting (230 degrees), it will burn out the lights you currently have unless you install fiber optic lights. Many people don’t know this and find out later they have to have another contractor install fiber optics. Regular lights will not work at these temperatures.
Many people are reselling their old heaters once they hear about the HUUM. (For those that want fairly new heaters from box type sauna heater companies, we can sell them for nearly half off what people paid for them as we subsidize the price when they buy the HUUM from us.
At 230 degrees, it is a whole new level. Heat shock proteins, lipolysis, extreme cardiac drift, huge shocks to the body are created unlike the 195 degree ones. If doing it for therapy, the HUUM is most preferred but if using it for mainly relaxation then the box heaters are just fine.
Depending on how high your bench is, you want to know what the temperature will most likely be so you know how to plan your session. If you want to stay in for 20 minutes you need your bench height at a certain level to get the heat that cannot raise the ceiling thermocline. Also, if your sauna is a foot or two higher and if you have it set at 230 degrees it will feel just like a 195 degree sauna since high ceilings create a heat trap.
Fans: if getting a HUUM, I found that the best way to get whole body vasodilation is to use a dc marine grade fan (12 volts) that is water proof to blow the cooler floor air to the ceiling and mix it with the ceiling air. Make sure its waterproof. The Kona fan is my favorite. Having a fan is the biggest game changer in making the entire sauna nearly the same temperature from floor to ceiling. Just upper torso vasodilation is not the same as whole body vasodilation and heating the body up all over at the same temperature.
Note: having a fan creates a stronger heat co-efficient as long as it is not blowing on your. It distributes the latent heat from the heater in the air so it doesn’t just heat up the ceiling and walls and not the body.
Notice: if using the HUUM at 230 degrees, I ONLY recommend doing high intense sessions once a week or once every 10 days at the most if trying to get the most therapy out of it. I don’t want to become heat adaptive. Just like the first time you try to run up a hill you might get sore and out of breath. If you use the HUUM heater at 230 degrees every time the body can adapt and it will no longer become a stressor and build heat shock proteins and the benefits will decrease to almost nothing. If doing it every 10 days the body won’t get used to it. The best way to use it is to use it like a normal heater for 9 days and the 10th day do the intense therapy.
Note: The 10th day extreme sauna experience is so intense, you most likely will need several bottles of Boost oxygen on hand or what I do is I have an oxygen concentrator and fill up a 4 foot bag of oxygen and use that to do Ewot during my session. I do this when I get into cardiac drift and always do it on the 230 degree days.
If using the HUUM as a steam generator, I always set it at 230. The steam will be super heated as close as you can get to a sweat lodge. Of course nothing gets as hot as a wood fired sauna that the rocks can get even hotter. If you through water on the HUUM and you let cold air come into the sauna in the winter, the steam will turn into snow since there is no condensate in the steam, it turns to snow before the gas can turn to water.
Note: for those considering using the HUUM as a steam generator, this makes steam with a 100% dryness fraction unlike steam generators that can get up to that but never reach 100%. Warning: if pouring too much water on the rocks and they cool down the dryness fraction will not be 100%.
Although the rocks cost more to replace unlike the box type that I have to replace maybe once every 3 years, the heating elements shouldn’t break down like the box types that usually have Chinese heating elements.
If you already have a sauna heater and want to replace it, depending on the brand, you may be able to use your controller with the HUUM and it will be cheaper if you don’t need the controller and temperature controllers.
FOR THOSE THAT ARE PLANNING TO KEEP THEIR HUUM FOR 10 YEARS OR MORE - You will need to replace a heating element at least once most likely. I sell all parts at a subsidized cost. I also sell my rocks at a subsidized price. I urge people to buy everything at once so you don’t have to pay shipping each time you have to do maintenance.
Used and returns: We always have people that return them to get a smaller or larger size. People always size their Killowatt size incorrectly and they keep the rocks and ship us back the heater. I have tons of rocks in different cities where people store them for me. The reason a sauna heater costs 500 to 1000 dollars to ship is because of the rock weight. Having pallets of rocks shipped to a local location makes it more affordable to ship rocks than having just one sauna worth shipped at a time from the manufacturer. I have a source in all the lower 48 states if you need rocks. Since it is local pickup there is free shipping on rocks.
I hope my review of the HUUM heater helped. If you have a contractor that can buy under their name please mention that when you call and I can go over contractor pricing.
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DO NOT STAY IN THE SAUNA THE FIRST FEW TIMES if rocks are untempered - it can shoot out and hit you in the eye and blind you
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I know most people don't have time to read this but if you do you will be glad you did.
I urge the average person buying a Huum heater to know the 200 rule and be CONSTANTLY aware of this anytime they are in the sauna. A good hygrometer costs 12 dollars and you hang it on the wall. You just add the temperature of the sauna room and the humidity, and if it goes over 200 then you know you should either turn the temperature down or stop pouring water on the heater. Going OVER 200 HAS THE OPPOSITE RESULTS YOU ARE PROBABLY WANTING IN A SAUNA.
We have the HUUM heater turned up to the highest level and pouring water on the rocks. Then we have it set at the same temperature but with a fan and see if the fan is the key to preventing the sauna from breaking the 200 rule.
If going over 200 and you want to keep your core body temperature 3 degrees higher or the artificial fever, having the heater up so high and having it steamy is not a good thing. Having a heart rate up so high and sweating heavily just reduces blood volume and dehydrates a person. At this point, no more water-soluble toxins are being released. First of all, the toxins have to be released from the interstitial fluid to be removed in a sauna. Longer sessions or hotter sessions will do it. The liver can only metabolize so many fat-soluble toxins and just sweating twice as much only releases water and screws up the electrolyte balance.
For the people who can handle saunas rated over 200, the safest way is to drink lots of electrolytes before the session, do EWOT at the point cardiac drift gets you out of breath, and definitely do what I do: I sit on my towel with a mat under it that keeps my voltage of my body at least 50 millivolts higher than it would be. Doing these 3 things are the only way I can break the 200 rule and have a 30-minute session. I only do this once about every 10 days.
I get the best results when the sauna is kept at or close to a 200 rating. Not any above that. That is, for the majority of the weekly sessions. Best results happen when the core is 3 degrees higher for a sustained 15 to 30 minutes. Longer is not better. For those that can’t handle it, switching from a cold plunge to the sauna can help.
For those who are disciplined, you are not doing this while drinking water during the session. If you're drinking water the whole time, that defeats the purpose, and many people stay there 45 minutes to an hour but their core never stays at the 3-degree fever.
Also, I urge people to try both types of sessions: having a really hot sauna but only 10% to 20% humidity, and on some days, having a not-so-hot sauna but having lots of humidity. So if the room is at 100% humidity and the temperature is at 100 degrees, that’s already at 200.
For those who are not going to use steam in their sauna and using it more for detox than any other reason, I recommend getting a visceral heater where you have an armature that brings it right up to your perineal peritoneal pelvic fat.
Notes to consider:
If you can stay in the sauna longer than 15 minutes at a time, it is not hot enough or the relative humidity is not high enough. If you have to take a break before 10 minutes, then it is too hot, even if not breaking the 200 rule.
If you want to stay in for 30 to 45 minutes, the way to get the benefits is to create a “bio sauna.” This is when the sauna is at a low temperature and the humidity is very high. It makes you think it’s really hot due to the low latent heat and high heat coefficient, but it’s only tricking you.
The temperature is at the lowest setting but the humidity is really high. Show the person after 15 minutes and then after 30 minutes.
Know your attitude towards your sauna. There are 2 types of attitudes you can have when going in the sauna: Are you the type that wants to relax and enjoy the sauna and just chill out? You aren’t concerned about health benefits even though you know you are getting them. The other way to view your sauna is as a workout or detox tool. You are trying to biohackand maximize the benefits of the sauna the best you can. Many people don’t like being borderline uncomfortable during their sauna session. Most people don’t have the discipline.
Electricity can cost a lot just to heat the sauna up for an hour just to go in for 10 or 15 minutes. I like to do three 10 to 15-minute sessions and take a cool shower or do my ice bath. I repeat this 3 times and then I feel like I spent the 2 dollars or so heating my sauna up better. I feel much better after doing 3 sessions back to back than just one session per day.
Breaking the 200 rule — If you are going to pour water on the rocks and have a high-humidity sauna with high temperatures, the humidity causes the skin to sweat less and hold heat in the body. If the body can’t sweat properly it can cause the body to overheat too quickly.
If using the sauna at 170 to 190 degrees like most people do, I do not recommend pouring 80 ml of water on the rocks at once. This will definitely break the 200 rule.
Get a scale — I always weigh myself after my sauna sessions. Sometimes I lose 2 pounds of water and when doing intense sessions I can lose around 5 pounds of water weight.
Pouring water — Don’t pour too much water on the rocks all at once. This will cause a heat wave and too much latent heat will go into the room at once. For those that have studied Brownian motion in high school physics, you may have remembered what happens to water when it is heated. I know how to avoid heat traps in the sauna and this is very easy to fix.
When pouring water on the rocks, the hot steam makes it feel hotter but the sauna is not actually hotter. For those that have studied relative humidity vs. absolute humidity will know about this. The heat wave should feel hot but not uncomfortable. This is why the marine-grade floor fan is so important.
Oversizing the heater: If the heater is oversized it constantly turns off and on way more times during the session. This helps cause frequent breakdowns and more warranty repairs over the heater’s lifespan. Oversized heaters usually need to be replaced prematurely.
Floor Fan Biohack
The Huum heater already makes a standard single level bench feel more like sitting on the 2nd level bench since HUUM heaters go up to 230 while most heaters only go up to 195 degrees. For those that want whole body vasodilation and not just half body where just your head and upper body is being heated up and your feet on the floor and legs aren’t getting hot, having the 16 inch fan blow the floor thermocline's cool air and shoots it up and mixes it with the super hot heat trap at the ceiling where it’s at least 3 feet from where most people sit.
This brings the entire room into homeostasis within a few degrees. We take laser thermometers and before using the fan, the floor temperature and ceiling temperature are very far apart. Also, having the fan should shave about a dollar in electricity costs off each hour session since the super hot ceiling thermocline is pushed down and not trapped anymore. The higher the ceiling the more expensive the sauna sessions are.
Rocks - Extra Small vs Small
This depends on if you are going to pour water on the rocks and at what temperature you are using the sauna at. Choosing between small and extra small makes a huge difference in the steam it creates and linger time. I personally like a low dryness fraction as it is more comfortable to breathe and doesn’t create the latent heat but some people like a higher latent heat and some like a higher heat co-efficient. You can’t go wrong with either as HUUM rocks are not hydrophilic like the flat rocks that give off the steam that hits you in the face and is uncomfortable, unlike HUUM's dryness fraction if getting the right rocks. If you don’t want to buy 2 sets of rocks and want to know if small or extra small will give you the steam you want, one of our biohackers can go over this.
50% of the people buy one or the other after talking to us. If you buy the wrong ones, you will probably never know if you would have preferred the other size. You will know after we talk if you are planning on pouring water on the rocks.
Highest Temperature
Most people have only experienced saunas that heat up to 195. I do not recommend most people turning the HUUM up to 230 degrees as this can put the average person into cardiac drift. I strongly recommend a marine grade destratification system. This way it’s less likely to get into cardiac drift since your head won’t be so hot and the sauna room temperature will be more evened out. It’s the best 80 dollars you will ever spend. You can find a used one on Amazon for 50 dollars. Contact us to learn more about this.
SGS Certification
It does not have a UL certification. It has a SGS certification which is even harder to get. No other sauna heater has this certification.
Heat Shock Proteins
Having a sauna session at the highest temperatures from the Huum heater can create major heat shock proteins and lipolysis of the visceral fat (especially if using the fan to bring the ceiling thermocline down). Many people want to lose belly fat (perineal fat, peritoneal fat, and pelvic fat) and higher temperatures are needed for this. I found it is better to do this when the entire sauna room temperature is around the same thermocline temperature. I urge people to research visceral heaters for those trying to lose belly fat. You cannot use these with steam saunas.
Bench Height
A higher bench can mean the difference of getting into cardiac drift too quick and being able to sustain the session and keep the body 3 degrees higher than normal body temperature for 30 minutes. Most people have to work their way up to longer sessions at higher temperatures. I use 1 Boost oxygen bottle per session but only when I am starting to get into cardiac drift. Breathing in 95% oxygen when not needed is not good. Remember that since the HUUM gets hotter than most heaters, it naturally pushes the thermocline down about a foot. A normal bench height can feel a foot higher if the temperature is turned to its highest.
Whole Body Sauna Therapy
This is something most people never experience. Just get the fan. Having the fan will let your whole body heat up at the same temperature at the same time. Once you do this, you probably won’t go back to the old way. Whole body vasodilation vs half body vasodilation - Just try it once.
Heat Co-efficients
This requires a 2nd fan (you don’t need a 12 or 16 inch fan for this like the floor fan). This is for people that are pouring water on the rocks. You will not get a heat co-efficient if you use this type of fan in a completely dry sauna. When you have the fan blowing on you it creates a wind chill factor and actually cools you down. But, when there is steam in the sauna from pouring water on the rocks, having a fan blowing on your creates a heat co-efficient (opposite of a wind chill factor) and I usually put the fan on whatever is bothering me. I usually put the fan right behind my back. There needs to be some space so I put it behind an S shaped back rest.
10th Day
If doing the highest heat session from a HUUM sauna, I only do this once every 10 days for complete cardiac drift. I go lower on the other days. You don’t want to become heat-adaptive. If doing this too long it won’t be a stressor and the heat shock protein benefit will diminish.
Super Biohack
Costs 9 dollars if you have a deep freezer - I have a deep freezer and store 9 gallons of water in there. They call it the "poor man’s cold plunge." Once I finish my sauna session, I go in the tub. It feels like sitting in a giant glass of ice water. You don’t need to buy a fancy cold plunge with filtration systems and chillers. Just change out the gallons twice a day. I take the 9 gallons out and put 9 in. I have 18 gallons so 9 are always freezing. The tub stays very cold all day and once you put fresh gallons in then it gets super cold. You may need to work your way up to 9 gallons so it’s not super cold.
EWOT
For those that don’t want to spend 8 dollars on a bottle of Boost oxygen each session, you may want to get a 4 foot Ewot bag and fill it up with oxygen (I get about 50% off on oxygen concentrators and sell them at cost for people doing this). Having this can help increase my session time increase 10 to 20 more minutes without getting into cardiac drift. At normal sauna temperatures it's not really needed a most people can handle a long enough session but when the HUUM is cranked up to the highest level, you will see what I’m talking about once you try just one bottle of Boost. Amazon sells them the cheapest when you buy a 6 pack.
Sweat Lodge Experience
For those that have been in a sweat lodge and know what pouring rocks on super hot rocks is like, you need the most hydrophobic rocks you can get and HUUM rocks are not like the flat rocks. Choosing between the extra small and regular rocks is personal decision that needs to be made. Some people want to feel the heat wave for a few seconds before Brownian motion takes over and some people want to feel the lingering steam but with a lighter steam. It is totally a personal preference.
Know the 200 Rule for Traditional Saunas
The 200 rule is just a guideline for the optimal and most comfortable sauna experience. This is when the temperature and also the humidity percentage combined don’t exceed 200. If the temperature is at 170F, the humidity in the sauna should not exceed 30%. You can get a good humidity meter for 9 dollars on Amazon. You don’t need anything more fancy than this one.
If the room goes over 200 you lose that feel good experience. It is not enjoyable to be in a room over 200 combined percentage. So many people buy the wrong size rocks if planning on pouring water on the HUUM sauna. Also, the higher the temperature the HUUM is at when the water is poured on the rocks the higher the dryness fraction and less condensate and humidity. So, if pouring water on a standard heater (not a HUUM BRAND), the humidity in the sauna is way higher based on pouring 1/3 of a cup of water on the rocks. So, if you pour the same amount of water at 230 degrees vs 195 degrees, pouring water on the rocks at the highest setting on a HUUM is exponentially more comfortable than any other brand that does not have this SGS certification to go to extreme temperatures. I have even experienced snow. If you are using the HUUM heater at the highest level and using it in the winter and open the sauna door and the freezing air comes in, since the dryness fraction at the hottest temperature makes the steam gassy, the steam will turn into ice or snow before it becomes condensate again. This stops the theory of Brownian motion. (It is OK. Most people in high school had no reason to remember what Brownian motion is but to pass their physics test. Note that the 200 score should be based where the hygrometer is. The ceiling will naturally be over 200 since heater rises and steam rises. I base this number on the thermocline in the sauna around my shoulder level.
If you have a 7 foot ceiling that is optimal. With a 7.5 foot ceiling, you can have a higher humidity level since the temperature is lower towards the shoulder level. When you get your sauna you will develop a preference. This is not something most people know about unless they are even aware of it or have been told about this. Those that have larger KW heaters like the Hive 15 or Hive 18 and are cranking their sauna up on high and pouring too much water on it, this will surpass 200 and it does NOT feel good. It’s kinda like being in the steam room and someone just poured ice water on the thermostat and then puts a cold rag over it and the steam room gets so hot that you need to get out. People at my gym get get upset and won’t tolerate that when some idiot that just joined comes in and does that. A ceiling that is higher will have a larger ceiling to floor temperature difference.
Drinking Water in a HUUM Sauna
I always drink before and right after. What’s the point of trying to create an artificial fever if you are trying to cool yourself down by drinking water. I let my core get into a 3 degree vasodilation. Drinking water just makes me more hydrophobic and not sweat as much. I want to get rid of toxins like heavy metal toxins and any organic chemicals in my body. I am not drinking water to cool myself down in the sauna. I take a 5 minute break when I need to and see so many people bringing water bottles in the sauna. If they were informed they would never do that. I believe a great sauna session should be borderline uncomfortable. Many people who come into saunas can’t handle any stressors to the body and are not disciplined.
How to Get a High Relative Humidity and avoid a High Absolute Humidity in your HUUM Sauna
HUUM rocks are the low porous type so it lets the water slide off (they are round and polished unlike others that are flat and bumpy). If you want to take the dryness fraction to another level, having white quartz on top of the rocks gives a super dry steam. If you are the type that likes a high absolute humidity then having a stone with a low thermal conductivity put still non-porous will give this type of steam since the rocks are not has hot but they retain heat better than the type that gives a high relative humidity. It is your choice - stones with higher heat retention but not as hot or ones that cool down quick but give a hotter steam. (This is only referring to the top rocks that the water hits before it hits the HUUM rocks). If you don’t like the super hot heat wave but you like steam in your sauna, the raspberry quartz is much gentler.
Get a Pulse Oximeter
If you are not at 98% or more, I strongly suggest EWOT (costs 10 dollars a bottle), this will let most people who are not physically fit sustain a session much longer than they normally could. Just having an Ewot score of 1% more can make the difference of having to get out. You can get a pulse oximeter on Amazon for less than 10 dollars.
Right when my level goes down and right when I get into cardiac drift is when I use my Boost oxygen bottle. This is the 2nd biggest sauna hack I have found after the 1st which is using the floor fan to get whole body sauna therapy, not just heating up my upper body.
The pulse oximeter DOES NOT show how well the person's body transfers oxygen. The body can be at 99.99% on the meter but this is NOT a sign of the usable state of the oxygen. Having high oxygen in the blood is not the same as saturating the body's cells with oxygen.
Peak capacity is when the level is 100 to 110mm of pressure that pushes 02 to the blood from the lungs. Note: those that are over 60 years old do not have pressures in the lung (110mm) like those that are much younger. In order for the pressure in the body to meet the requirements so it is not inadequate in carrying oxygenated blood to the hypoxic tissues that need oxygen the most, sometimes heating the core temperature 3 degrees higher.
Note: Those with sludge blood who are doing Ewot with the sauna will often saturate their bodies with oxygen and the oxygen will be absorbed into the blood but still won't be transported to the cells. This is why heating the entire body up 3 degrees is so important. Doing Ewot at normal body temperature is probably almost as bad as having sludge blood and an acidic body. Those with inflammation and blockages in their body will find it much harder to use oxygen with their sauna also unless it is done right. The oxygen will just be bypassed and not absorbed into the body. When the oxygen is not being burned as fuel is when the body can get harmed and over oxygenated. The fan will bring the room temperature in equilibrium so that the legs are heated up to absorb oxygen better than when cooler.
Staying in TOO long - WARNING FOR PEOPLE USING OXYGEN BOTTLES IN THE SAUNA
Staying in too long can drain more and do heavier lipolysis and the body can't filter all the toxins coming out. Also, staying in too long and not taking the right "anti-oxidants" or not enough or the wrong type that can't counter act the oxidation from excess oxygen that is not being burned, this also can be a problem for most people. I urge people to get answers to questions before starting Ewot sauna therapy. Getting just the right amount of oxygen and not over doing my session is always my goal. I don't want to stay in the sauna if I can't produce enough bile to emulsify the waste.
I know so much about this and I can customize a biohacking experience based on each persons’ body ecology. I do not charge for this. I love sharing what I know. Everyone at my gym knows me this. Everyone is quiet at the gym sauna until I come in. When I bring my fan in the sauna people stare. People have never seen anyone do this before. Some people leave and go get the manager. I can always tell when someone is going to tell on me as they quickly leave right when I turn it on. I wrap up my fan in my towel and go in the shower. I can’t stand a snitch.
Fiber Optic Lights
If you have these in your sauna and plan on turning the heater up to the highest temperature, make sure your lights can handle it. Regular lights will not work at this temperature. Contact us if you have any lighting questions. Many people install these before getting their HUUM heater only to realize they have to remove it after installing it. This can work with heaters that go up to 195 but not 230.
Keeping costs down
An hour long sauna session (including the preheating time uses about 9 to 13 kilowatt hours in electricity - keeping the ceiling lower and using a floor fan brings the cost down. Also, having more rocks to hold more latent heat brings it down even lower. 10 boxes of rocks holds way more latent heat than just 4 boxes.
Larger HUUM rocks are preferred by half the people depending on what type of sauna therapy they are seeking and the other people want the smallest rocks that will fit in their sauna who want the sauna to heat up quick and don’t have time wait 3 times as long for large rocks to heat up.
Larger rocks absorb heat slower and take longer to heat the sauna and costs a lot more in electricity to run. Small rocks heat up quick but require the sauna elements to stay fired up nearly twice the time. For the price to keep the larger stoned sauna on for an hour… using small rocks is like running the sauna for 2 to 3 hours depending on the size of the sauna.
If you are keeping your sauna on for hours and don’t mind spending 5 or 6 dollars extra each time then by all means don’t worry if your rocks are small. The larger rocks can allow for better air circulation around the heaters and allow better heat circulation so all the rocks heat up evenly. Small rocks can get tight and over packed if not done right.
The larger rocks give a gentler steam if you don’t want that super hot heat wave when you pour water on the rocks. Also, for those trying to increase heat shock proteins and want the sauna at its hottest, the larger rocks don’t reach the highest temperatures as the smaller ones. If you like an intense steam the smallest rocks are what gives the steam that feels more like a sweat lodge in the case of using an electric heater. If using fire heated stones, any HUUM stones will reach the same temperature.
If you plan on just going in the sauna for 30 minutes to an hour and don’t need the rocks to retain heat for hours, the small ones will help cost less in the start up to heat the rocks. If using the sauna all day then using small rocks will cost a lot more to operate but if you want a steam that most people prefer and don’t care about operating costs, then small may be a good choice. Many people get one box of extra small rocks to put on the top of the sauna heater and have larger ones near the bottom. Most people buy the 2 to 4 inch rocks to get a balanced steam that gives a relative humidity that is not too high and doesn’t feel like using just 4 inch rocks that gives the most absolute humidity. Most people like a high relative humidity and do everything to avoid high absolute humidity.
If you want the most authentic sauna experience and are planning to pour water on the heaters, you may want to study sweat lodges where they traditionally use huge stones and heat them in the fire and they bring them in the sweat lodge for their ceremony. If not using fire and relying on electricity, the only way to compensate for the smallest rocks with low thermal mass is to keep the heating elements on most of the time to retain their heat. The smallest rocks give the closest experience as a traditional sweat lodge with large rocks.
When you get normally get the box of HUUM rocks, there will be rocks that are smaller and larger. Once you have a preference of what type of heat and steam you prefer then it’s easier to choose the type of rocks are you going to use. See our video of the steam created using small HUUM rocks versus large HUUM rocks. You can see the difference in the steam cloud immediately as the steam travels to the ceiling in the room.
At no extra charge, we pour all the rocks out of the boxes and if you don’t want just whatever comes in the box and you want us to hand pick your rocks let us know.
Most people that buy boxes of rocks without them being sorted all get about the same type of sauna experience. If you want to tweak and biohack your sauna experience you will get just the type of heat and steam you want once you get just the right rocks. If you want to take it even to the next level, we can even pick out the flatter HHUUM rocks that when you pour water on the rocks it slides off the rocks so quick giving the closest to a 100% dryness fraction.
Warning: Staying in a sauna longer than someone should with those in a high level of toxicity is only a burden on the body if it affects your health and causes things NOT to clear out of the body.
There are 3 main detoxification paths that must work together with each other to bind what was released, mobilize it, and move it out of the body. Many people are not ready for a major cleanse and end up following protocols someone told them to do. People fail when they follow these protocols that are not meant for them.
I am listing the top questions people ask me.
I first want to say that most people I meet that have chronic pain and can't get rid of their infections alway have a low body temperature. It is hard to get rid of chronic infections when the body temperature is low to start with.
Question #1 - How long should I use the sauna for?
Most beginners to the sauna will find that 7 days is long enough but those that have more time to do a deeper cleanse might aim for 20 or even 30 days. I mean every day using the sauna on full spectrum. I believe it is better to do it over a longer time. Many people will want to take it gradual and others have no choice but to do it gradual. Doing it over 7 days is too rapid for some people and those people can have very uncomfortable symptoms.
#2 How do I know the sauna is even working?
It is not fun doing a detox. Nearly everybody thinks its gonna be relaxing. Once people go through that cleansing crisis they will know what I am talking about. Most of the toxins coming out of the body are coming out of the fat where they are doing very minimal damage to the organs. When the body detoxes, the toxins come out of the fat and can overload the body and put it into a crisis. Once people overdo a session on the sauna faster than they can eliminate. I mean pulling more waste out of the fat than their liver can metabolize. For the next 3 to 5 hours all these toxins are circulating in the body. A good sign the person is not prepared to do this detox just yet is when after the session their break wreaks and the person feels nauseous or even has a headache. Other people can get bumpy skin or a bad rash. It is when these symptoms persist is when someone needs to talk to someone who knows what they are doing.
#3 How long should I use the sauna for?
Those that I coach I always say to start for 10 to 30 minutes after their core temperature is raised to their desired temperature. It usually takes people about 2 to 3 weeks to get to 30 minutes to 60 minute sessions.
#4 How often should I do this?
Depending on what other protocols are being taken, once session per day is good or if someone wants to be more aggressive they can do 2 sauna sessions per day. It takes many people about a year to fully detox when using it every other day. Many people I would recommend to use it every day once a day and others every other day but doing it twice per day on those days.
#5 had to be taken down - too many people get offended when I talk about body fluids.
#6 Should I shower before my session?
Yes, this opens up all the pores. I would make sure I have a good shower filter. There are a few brands of shower filters I really like. Based on how bad your water is you might not need the best one.
#7 Should I take a cool shower right after my session?
No. I lay down for about 10 minutes to let my core temperature settle down to normal body temperature. The cold shower might be good for skin tone but by letting the body re adjust and not getting up immediately to shower lets the body finish sweating out whatever it can and let the lymph capillaries do its thing.
When is the best time to use the sauna?
I like to use it very early in the morning or before bed time but as long as it doesn't take away my sleep.
How long is a 30 minute session? Does it start when I get in the sauna while my core is heating up or once my core is heated?
Once I break a sweat, that is when I start counting how long my session is. If it took 20 minutes to break a sweat and then I use my sauna for 30 minutes. The session is 30 minutes, not 50 minutes.
How many sessions per day should I use the sauna?
One session is usually good for most people but for those that are working on a specific therapy than two sessions are permissible. If aiming for 3 sessions per day, for those usually in some dire situation or doing a 7 day detox, this is good but extra precautions and protocols I find should be taken.
What if I don't sweat in my sauna?
Some people don't sweat the first 2-4 sessions. This is normal for many people. These are people that haven't sweated in a really long time. Over time, most people become more effective at regulating their body temperature under heat. I would not stay on longer if my heart beat is over 30% of my resting pulse rate if I had a medical issue. Normally this is fine.
Do I really need to aim for my body core temperature to go to 103F?
Fat and Cellulite deposits that are holding body wastes and acidic heavy metals start releasing at around 100.5 degrees. Cooking the body higher should just increase the rate although it is much more uncomfortable. As the fat is broken down into a water soluble solution in the body it can be released. I strongly urge people to look into rebounding. Remember, release then remove, release then remove, not the opposite.
I have the flu. How long should my sessions be?
When I get the flu, I do sessions 2-3 times per day but only keep my core temperature higher 20 minutes. I don't want to drain all my energy I need for healing my cold. Hyperthermia is good as long as it is done right. I want to strengthen my immune system, not run it down by over doing my sessions. I usually get rid of my cold in a day or two when I first get it if I follow the protocols I've learned.
What should I do right when I finish a session?
I always relax and cool down until my body stops perspiring. I don't immediately get in the shower. I don't want to trap toxins in my skin that need to be released at the last part of my session.
When is it too long of a session
Our bodies are meant to stay at 98.6. When it's on high it can raise the core to 105F. 105F is when the body is in a serious medical emergency. I urge people to never go over 103F on my sauna site and tweaking their sessions to stay at 103F even if they are using it for an hour. It should not feel like torture but it also is not the most fun thing to do. Staying in the sauna longer than one should as to see how much endurance someone has is not a good thing.
Those with high blood pressure, diabetes, and especially who are on medications should always make sure with their doctor they can do this type of therapy. Those who have these conditions can react differently than a person who can handle deep tissue therapy.
I urge people to time their first session and see how long it took them to sweat, that first sweat that beads down their brow. This is when the core temperature is raised about 1 degree with the majority of the people I work with. Many people don't make it to 103F core temp due to feeling light headed or like they are going to faint. Many people just starting out can't even go 5 to 10 minutes at 103F. Many people strive for about 20 minutes at 102F to 103F. If not doing a full 20 minute or longer session, I break my sessions up. Still, I find split sessions are better than a longer session not split in half.
Note: even splitting the session up in one hour can be suitable for many. Taking a 5 minute cold shower to bring my body back down from 103F and then continuing the session. I have a bathtub full of lukewarm water ready for me when I do split sessions. Some people do a half session in the morning and the other half at night.
Notice: I do not recommend anyone doing more sauna sessions in a day. Two sessions per day is good and 4 sessions is too draining. If doing 3 sessions per day, I make sure I have enough supplements so I don't deplete myself.
a word about prime seating:
On some 2 person models I have to move and switch sides cause I get warm on one side but lacking fluence on the other. Its like being under an umbrella on the beach and part of my body is exposed to the sun and not covered.
I don't want to be detoxed on one side and not on the other. I need a balanced detox. It's not just about comfort. I want to lay in there and relax.
Note: the prime seat is usually known as the seat right in the middle of the sauna. This is where even if a sauna is a high EMF sauna it will have low EMF in the prime seat. This can be misleading as if someone sits right next to the right or left side, those heaters usually have higher wattage on the sides and they often have high EMF. The heaters in the back are usually lower wattage as they are right behind the person next to their skin.
Using a salve or balm on the body can help block the evaporative effect of sweating. Those that use a salve during their session can raise their core temperature MUCH FASTER and can increase it even higher. People sweat way more when they do this but those doing this need to be very careful as the core can get too hot. Monitoring the temperature of the body should be mandatory if doing this. I learned this at the Russian bath house I used to go to. I kept seeing people put oil on them. I could not figure it out. They were putting castor oil on them. This is what most people use to block sweat evaporation in the sauna. (I put a soy fabric water based cover on my sauna seat if using castor oil). I have learned so many tips on how to do this and they all conflict. Some people say do it once you sweated 50% of your session, others say put it on when you first get in. Others say get all the sweat out in your first session and go cool down and put the oil on for the 2nd session.
As people do this they will learn what works best for them. The goal is to not dehydrate and lose too much water but enough to rid whatever someone is trying to get rid of.
Note: I strongly recommend going someone to do a 1 hour body scrub. Over a pound of this grayish play-dough looking stuff comes off the body. It is hard to release when so many pores are clogged. Dry skin brushing can be good for maintenance but if someone hasn't been doing this regularly, a good body scrub at a local spa can give a big jumpstart. Also, when dry skin brushing, I do this BEFORE my session. When I take a bath afterwards my session, I use a loofah and scrub even more. All the pores are open and during the hot bath (as hot as I can take), I am still sweating and trying to release whatever was trapped in my pores.
Note: I do this once I get my flush. Using Niacin before my session and then I wait till I get that "flush" and then I am ready to start. This is done before I take my bath on days I am taking a bath and do it before if I am not planning on taking a long bath afterwards. Also, I use a really high end shower filter (the
WOOD TYPES:
More important than the type of wood, knowing if it was grown in the forrest or on a farm with artificial fertilizers. Wood grown with fertilizers grow 3 times as fast and do not have the chance to soak up the minerals from the ground like the forrest trees. The woods from Canada where forests are abundant have the woods for saunas that are grown in nature. They are a much harder wood than the brittle kind that splinters and warps.
The thickness is also important. The least amount of cracks get reported from the thicker woods. Splintering really has to do with the quality of the wood, not the thickness. Look for the mm of the wood. Some are 12mm and some can go higher, 16mm thick woods.
Also the woods should be 100% wood with no fillers sandwiched between. Trees that have grown in the forrest that are almost perfect wood without flaws are very expensive wood. I know within seconds of going into a sauna if the wood is bunk. I go to trade shows and I see these off brand no name saunas and sure enough, I can always tell if its a good sauna. Many mark them up to really high prices even with the fertilized wood. Canadian lumber is very expensive.
Notice: Always asks if the wood is under warranty if it splinters or cracks.
The main choices are are Cedar, Hemlock, and Basswood. Basswood is the most expensive of all, cedar is next. Some saunas are lightweight, others are heavy and use about 20 to 30% more wood but look the same.
More important than the type of wood, knowing if it was grown in the forrest or on a farm with artificial fertilizers. Wood grown with fertilizers grow 3 times as fast and do not have the chance to soak up the minerals from the ground like the forrest trees. The woods from Canada where forests are abundant have the woods for saunas that are grown in nature. They are a much harder wood than the brittle kind that splinters and warps.
When I asked fence companies, they said that the fertilized wood should last a long time but they have a good 8 year life span before they show signs of splintering and warping. The Canadian natural wood should last 60 to 80 years. Wood from the 1920s before they started adding fertilizers had the 60 to 80 years expectancy. The weakest of the woods for saunas have the shortest lifespan in the ground and the highest fertilizers.
Canadian wood is the best you can get. I have no problem with wood from China as long as you know what to expect from it.
The thickness is also important. The least amount of cracks get reported from the thicker woods. Splintering really has to do with the quality of the wood, not the thickness. Look for the mm of the wood. Some are 12mm and some can go higher, 16mm thick woods.
Also the woods should be 100% wood with no fillers sandwiched between. Trees that have grown in the forrest that are almost perfect wood without flaws are very expensive wood. I know within seconds of going into a sauna if the wood is bunk. I go to trade shows and I see these off brand no name saunas and sure enough, I can always tell if its a good sauna. Many mark them up to really high prices even with the fertilized wood. Canadian lumber is very expensive.
Notice: Always asks if the wood is under warranty if it splinters or cracks.
I always ask to get saunas with "center cut" wood. This is the prime grade wood. Cheaper saunas might have the same wood but its usually not center cut wood. Center cut wood costs much more. If I do get center cut, I make sure it was grown in the forrest and not farm raised.
The wood that is used will expand and contract as the sauna temperatures rise and fall and this is repeated for years. Over time wood thats not Grade A center cut or doesn’t have the capacity to expand and contract with ease, can potentially start to splinter or creak or crack especially when all the toxic oils excreted during peoples sweat sessions.
The way the wood is cut, how the grain of the wood is laid out is just as important as if it’s a center or outer cut. They can cut the wood so that the grain of the wood is laid out so it adds strength to the wood even though the wood is pretty bunk to start with.
I always look to see if the growth rings are parallel to the load where I am gonna be sitting. Some saunas have the growth rings that are perpendicular to the weight load of the seat.
I also inspect my sauna for sloping grains. This is the big thing that can weaken the bench.
For super toxic people, most of the toxins in the body are stored in the fat and once they are released it can either be good and released properly or depending on the lymphatic system get released back into the body although most is released by the skin in the sauna. The natural homeostasis that the body tries to hold on to fat to hold the toxins so the toxins don't spread to the organs and damage the body, the body will try to hold the fat while the sauna will help force the body to dissolve the fat. If the body is trying to hold the fat, the protocols that let the body know it’s ok to release the fat is what can help someone lose weight.
Stimulating the lymphatic system before a sauna session starts the pumping of the lymphatic system that pulls out the toxins out of the fat. Many people go in the sauna and expect to have the sauna do everything for them as ifs a one protocol fits all.
Fat is only water soluble so it can metabolize when the temperature of the fat is at 110 degrees or more. (or the fat cells can shrink making a person look thinner when the fat cells don't have to swell up with fat in order to hold the toxins and heavy metals and acids in the body. Most people don't know that the fat is a good thing as it holds all this waste in the body. People who think they can go in the sauna for 20 minutes and gonna melt fat away don't get it. The toxins leach out of the fat cells. The fat doesn't melt. As the fat cells hold less toxins they shrink.
Most often people are trying to detox in a hurry and want to see results fast. But more often none of the people trying to get results either know what to do. They go in the sauna, do a long session, stay in till they feel they need to get out and just sweated a lot of water. Meanwhile, their lymphatic system is bunk and even more often they are using a low fluence sauna.
Detoxing the slow way with slightly longer sessions back to back and doing the recommended protocols for the health opportunity someone is having, can be more beneficial. Some people are doing a heavy detox and some just want to use the sauna to maintain their health.
With every session, even if not detoxing or sick, dry skin brushing enhances the session more than any other protocol I have found. The harder the brush the better. I think it’s stupid to not do any type of lymphatic stimulation while in the sauna. No one even thinks to do this if it’s not mentioned. It’s more important to do this before the session although doing it the session can be beneficial. I always brush toward the heart. Most of the lymphatic vessels are in the legs so I focus mostly on the legs.
Detox & Water
Over drinking water can take the benefits out of having a warm core while in the sauna. Many people try to drink more on purpose thinking they are flushing the body out more. I have found it is more important to replace alkaline salts and minerals and electrolytes
How to optimize the sauna detox experience:
As people stir up toxins in the cells their bodies will have to find some way to release them. Besides a small amount releasing through the skin and sweat the rest goes into the lymphatic system then into the elimination organs. As the cells open up to release old toxins that have been carried around for years, if it’s not properly eliminated, they could be displaced elsewhere in the body. It can be quite dangerous for example the body might have safely quarantined some mercury or cadmium in fat cells in the arm only to have them released in the and then re-deposited in the brain tissue.
Most people are in a hydrophobic state when they call me. I feel it is my job to bring them or at least educate enough on how to go back to the hydrophilic state.
Many people are juicing and don't have the fiber to flush the waste out of the digestive tract. Its sticky and gooey and didn't come out of the sweat. The liver also dumps bile after cleaning out the blood and lymph. A binding agent like a zeolite and edible clays can help. I aways take them about 30 minutes before the session to make sure my small intestine is ready to receive all of the toxic bile that the liver will dump there. It can help soak up all the toxins and then safely carry it the rest of the way out of the digestive tract and colon so that the toxins do not get reabsorbed again which would just overburden the liver and kidneys and lead to further immune system stress and decline.
Sebaceous sweat vs 99% water sweat
This is the sweat that cleanses the body and is not the water sweat but the oily sweat. Its where the wastes come out. The sebaceous glands VS the part of the sweat gland that rids water to cool the body down. The toxins that dissolve in the fat in the body come out of the sebaceous glands.
Sauna Session Times
Depending on how hydro-philic someone is (or with people that don't sweat a lot, hydro phobic) this can determine the session times. Some people do better in high fluence sauna with longer sessions at lower temperatures and others do better at higher temps with a low fluence sauna because they are hydro philic. I have talked to many people that drink a gallon of water a day and still thirsty. And some people have to go to the bathroom right after they drink and don't retain water. Most hydro philic people have a clearer sweat to start with.
This will determine the timing of the session. Some people start sweating in 10 minutes while others just have an oily sebaceous sweat as they don't have the need to sweat profusely to cool their bodies down.
After about 15 minutes, the average person in a sauna usually starts to see sweat dripping and their heart rate is usually about 100 beats per minute by this time. In 20 minutes, it beats between 100 to 150 beats per minute. After 25 to 30+ minutes it should stay around the same but some people start beating even faster and this is a sign that the session is being overdone.
After about 30 minutes the body starts releasing toxins, Sooner if doing lymphatic exercise. The thing I try to avoid is just sweating water based sweat and more of the sebaceous, oil based sweat. It can take longer depending on the fluence of the heaters and if a person is too hydro phobic, but this is mainly the people that haven't sweat in a long time. By 30 minutes many people feel they have had enough, especially in a high fluence sauna. I like to do shorter back to back sessions. For me, it’s not the amount of sweat I sweat out in a session, but the type of sweat. If I do some lymphatic exercise in between and in the next session the sweat volume is much less but the color is much more milky looking, then its not so important to me how much I sweat but the amount of toxins coming out. I always supplement with brine free salt and my vita mineral greens. I do not believe the sauna session time is as therapeutic for me after the 30 minute time limit. The body can only leach out so many toxins with the lymphatic system being stagnant at one sitting. If going over 30 minutes in a single session, all I am doing is leaching out my vital minerals and salts.
The best way I have found to know if how hydro phillic or phobic I am is to see how long it takes for the pre sweat. This is when my skin just gets damp but I don't start dripping sweat just yet. The healthier I am the quicker my skin gets damp. Some people take longer and some people take 5 minutes. This is all based on going in cold and not warmed up yet. Knowing the damp skin to sweat times is good for knowing if the fluence of the sauna is high enough. Know that the fluence of the heaters has nothing to do with the temperature. Also the further away the heaters are from the body the less impact a high fluence heater has on the body.
Other things to know:
If you are going to pour water on the rocks… know if you want a higher relative humidly vs absolute humidity
8 foot ceilings - If a ceiling is 8 foot tall, nearly 20% of the heat will be lost above the head. I know how to fix this.
9 foot ceiling - If a 9 foot ceiling, nearly 40% of the steam cloud is over the head.
Heat Co-efficients - How to raise or lower
Floor Fans - I NEVER DO A sauna SESSION WITHOUT A FAN
I use a floor fan to blow down the hot heat from the ceiling so the entire room is around the same temperature - full body sauna therapy. They are ip67 rated and can handle humidity. It give the room a high relative humidity and keeps the room at the same temperature the entire session. If you have a ceiling in your sauna over 8 foot high or taller I recommend a fan. Forced convection (kinda like a hair dryer) helps remove the thermal barrier off the skin in a sauna. I only use saunas if I have a fan with me.
Why have a fan?
If using a fan, know the CFM of the fan (cubic feet per minute). If you have a 250 cubic foot room and a fan that has a CFM of 80, then it won't be strong enough to bring the ceiling thermocline done to give full body vasodilation (full body sauna therapy).
With the proper marine grade floor fan, you should no longer have problems with cold spots and hot spots in your sauna.
Things I need to know to get the right sauna setup:
Measurements: Length, Width, and Height
Is there a glass door or glass window?
IS ANYTHING UNUSUAL ABOUT YOUR ROOM SIZE?
Do you have any uninsulated walls in your sauna?
Where is the sauna going to be? Indoors or Outdoors
How do you like your sauna sessions?
Easy, not too hot
Steady, so I don't have to take breaks
Moderately hard, may have to take a break once
Hard, may have to take 2 breaks during a sauna session
Very Hard, may have to take 3 breaks or more. Cardiac drift will happen.
Do you like to stay in for the whole session or take a few breaks sitting outside the sauna?
I want it comfortable, possibly sustaining a 45 to 60 min session without leaving the sauna
I want it somewhat uncomfortable, possibly only lasting 30 to 45 minutes before I need to get out
I want it uncomfortable, possibly only lasting 20 to 30 minutes before I need to get out
I like it very uncomfortable, possibly needing to take a break after 10 to 20 minutes
Are you going to be pouring water on the heater?
No
Yes, very little
A moderate amount
Lots of water, I like it steamy
Are you doing Hormesis is your Huum sauna?
Are you doing castor oil/flannel cloth treatments in your sauna?
Are you trying to create heat shock proteins in the sauna
Are you buying for residential or commercial use
Residential
Commercial
How long do you plan on keeping the heater on?
Just for one session
An hour or two
All day
Not sure yet
Notice: Many people get tired after being in a sauna for an hour. Heavy respiration significantly raises the CO2 level in a sauna. It is recommended to get 3 to 6 air changes per hour. Tiredness is often from being in a sauna with high CO2 levels. If the level goes over 600ppm, I get out. Most public saunas are way over 600. I strongly recommend getting a CO2 meter and keeping it in the sauna.
I have put pictures of the fans that I use and pictures of a hygrometer (so you don't break the 200 rule). Also, getting small or extra small rocks with a sauna is a preference you should have before getting a sauna heater.
I can help you compare saunas and heaters on any level you are comfortable on. My recommendations and sizing are usually different than you would get from others.
I offer a biohacking consultation with every purchase. Free shipping to lower 48 states. I do not ship anywhere outside the lower 48 states. I also sell other brands if you don't ne
Also, if you are going to pour water on the rocks and care if your steam quality is sharp or soft then getting the right HUUM rocks can also be a problem.
BUYER BEWARE - IF YOU DO NOT TEMPER YOUR ROCKS THEY CAN EXPLODE - MAKE SURE ALL OF YOUR ROCKS ARE AIRTIGHT IF YOU PLAN ON TURNING IT UP TO 230 AND POURING WATER ON THE ROCKS. If you don't temper them and there is a problem and just say you have a Hive heater and bought 17 boxes of rocks... you will have to buy another 17 boxes and replace EVERY SINGLE rock if you used the sauna and poured water first without tempering the rocks.,
Consumer notice: If buying a HUUM heater do not buy if not using thermally treated wood or wood with resins. If building your own sauna I offer Prosaunas brand wood. I strongly recommend either Dundalk or Saunalife as these have the highest R values and no resins and are both thermally treated wood. If getting a Harvia or a heater that goes up to around 195 degrees you should be fine with any brand. That is why Almost Heaven saunas has no problems with resin problems. If you put a HUUM in their saunas.... you get the point.
Most people who buy a Saunalife sauna get the drop heater. Be aware that their are 2 different versions of this heater and you won't be able to tell as it is not disclosed. There are thousands of versions with the element separators built into the Huum drop heater and some come with the heat reflector to protect the wall and some don't. I know the dealers who have the older model before they changed over to the newer style. Just like some dealers still charge people extra for the air tunnel that now comes with the Hive heaters. The older ones didn't. Beware of dealers that still try to charge people extra for the air tunnel when they know it comes with it standard now.
HUUM introduced an upgrade kit for the DROP heater to fix issues with heating elements touching, bending, and melting. The updates include a heating element separator (or retainer) that locks the coils in place to maintain safe spacing, alongside a heat reflector/diverter that protects the wall and optimizes heat
If getting a HUUM heater make sure you get the right sauna because if you turn the heater up to 230 degrees most saunas will trap the heat at the top. I know which saunas you can get away with having a 195 degree heater and which saunas you need to make special arrangements if getting a HUUM but only if you are going to go higher than 195.
Also, if the HUUM heater when cranked up high is too close to the wall or bench I know when and when not to get a reflector. You might have to order a reflector for the wall and one for the bench - yes, 2 of them. I will make sure to let you know if you need them or not.
Also, if the ceiling height is a certain height taller you can get away with oversizing but if there is a smaller distance it can char the ceiling or burn the house down. Please ask me about this when you call. About 10% of callers end up getting this wrong and should return their heater if the wrong size was bought. Oversizing is a huge problem with certain buyers. I won't mention the age but it is not Generation X. I rarely if ever have wrong size returns from my generation. With a phone call and actually talking to someone who knows what they are doing makes all the difference. Anyone in their 50's and 60's should know exactly which generation I am referring to.
Remember, super heated air at 230 degrees has very low oxygen and the oxygen in the sauna falls to the floor an at breathing level it can be very low even if on the first level bench. If you wanna find out for yourself just buy a CO2 meter on Amazon for 50 bucks and see for yourself. A floor fan will fix this problem. Make sure it is a DC 12 volt marine fan. I can show you the ones I like best if you are interested. I always tell people...try a session with the fan and without the fan bringing that oxygen rich floor air up into the air. See how many more minutes it takes for you to get into cardiac drift when using the fan. If you don't want a fan and want to keep a bottle of Boost oxygen in the sauna. That can help you stay in longer past the point when you normally want to get out as it keeps your oxygen level closer to 99% on the pulse oximeter. I have a huge 8 foot bag I fill up with 99% oxygen and use that. It is much cheaper than bottles of oxygen and
Things to know before BUYING A HUUM HEATER:
HUUM HEATERS ARE NOT FOR EVERYONE -
I have been selling the box heaters for years and there has not been a problem. Now that the USA has approved the new SGS certification, heaters can now legally be turned up to 230 degrees, not 195 degrees which every heater maxes out at no matter what the brand. The HUUM heater is the first electric heater ever to be allowed in the USA that can go over 195 degrees.
WARNING: if you do get a HUUM heater and you even once try to experience it at its highest setting (230 degrees), it will burn out the lights you currently have unless you install fiber optic lights. Many people don’t know this and find out later they have to have another contractor install fiber optics. Regular lights will not work at these temperatures.
Many people are reselling their old heaters once they hear about the HUUM. (For those that want fairly new heaters from box type sauna heater companies, we can sell them for nearly half off what people paid for them as we subsidize the price when they buy the HUUM from us.
At 230 degrees, it is a whole new level. Heat shock proteins, lipolysis, extreme cardiac drift, huge shocks to the body are created unlike the 195 degree ones. If doing it for therapy, the HUUM is most preferred but if using it for mainly relaxation then the box heaters are just fine.
Depending on how high your bench is, you want to know what the temperature will most likely be so you know how to plan your session. If you want to stay in for 20 minutes you need your bench height at a certain level to get the heat that cannot raise the ceiling thermocline. Also, if your sauna is a foot or two higher and if you have it set at 230 degrees it will feel just like a 195 degree sauna since high ceilings create a heat trap.
Fans: if getting a HUUM, I found that the best way to get whole body vasodilation is to use a dc marine grade fan (12 volts) that is water proof to blow the cooler floor air to the ceiling and mix it with the ceiling air. Make sure its waterproof. The Kona fan is my favorite. Having a fan is the biggest game changer in making the entire sauna nearly the same temperature from floor to ceiling. Just upper torso vasodilation is not the same as whole body vasodilation and heating the body up all over at the same temperature.
Note: having a fan creates a stronger heat co-efficient as long as it is not blowing on your. It distributes the latent heat from the heater in the air so it doesn’t just heat up the ceiling and walls and not the body.
Notice: if using the HUUM at 230 degrees, I ONLY recommend doing high intense sessions once a week or once every 10 days at the most if trying to get the most therapy out of it. I don’t want to become heat adaptive. Just like the first time you try to run up a hill you might get sore and out of breath. If you use the HUUM heater at 230 degrees every time the body can adapt and it will no longer become a stressor and build heat shock proteins and the benefits will decrease to almost nothing. If doing it every 10 days the body won’t get used to it. The best way to use it is to use it like a normal heater for 9 days and the 10th day do the intense therapy.
Note: The 10th day extreme sauna experience is so intense, you most likely will need several bottles of Boost oxygen on hand or what I do is I have an oxygen concentrator and fill up a 4 foot bag of oxygen and use that to do Ewot during my session. I do this when I get into cardiac drift and always do it on the 230 degree days.
If using the HUUM as a steam generator, I always set it at 230. The steam will be super heated as close as you can get to a sweat lodge. Of course nothing gets as hot as a wood fired sauna that the rocks can get even hotter. If you through water on the HUUM and you let cold air come into the sauna in the winter, the steam will turn into snow since there is no condensate in the steam, it turns to snow before the gas can turn to water.
Note: for those considering using the HUUM as a steam generator, this makes steam with a 100% dryness fraction unlike steam generators that can get up to that but never reach 100%. Warning: if pouring too much water on the rocks and they cool down the dryness fraction will not be 100%.
Although the rocks cost more to replace unlike the box type that I have to replace maybe once every 3 years, the heating elements shouldn’t break down like the box types that usually have Chinese heating elements.
If you already have a sauna heater and want to replace it, depending on the brand, you may be able to use your controller with the HUUM and it will be cheaper if you don’t need the controller and temperature controllers.
FOR THOSE THAT ARE PLANNING TO KEEP THEIR HUUM FOR 10 YEARS OR MORE - You will need to replace a heating element at least once most likely. I sell all parts at a subsidized cost. I also sell my rocks at a subsidized price. I urge people to buy everything at once so you don’t have to pay shipping each time you have to do maintenance.
Used and returns: We always have people that return them to get a smaller or larger size. People always size their Killowatt size incorrectly and they keep the rocks and ship us back the heater. I have tons of rocks in different cities where people store them for me. The reason a sauna heater costs 500 to 1000 dollars to ship is because of the rock weight. Having pallets of rocks shipped to a local location makes it more affordable to ship rocks than having just one sauna worth shipped at a time from the manufacturer. I have a source in all the lower 48 states if you need rocks. Since it is local pickup there is free shipping on rocks.
I hope my review of the HUUM heater helped. If you have a contractor that can buy under their name please mention that when you call and I can go over contractor pricing.
HUUM DROP 4.5, Drop 6, Drop 7.5, and Drop 9
All need 4 BOXES OF ROCKS
Ask about open box returns. The 4.5 and 6 kw are the most returned size and we have the most open box returns of these sizes. Also, some people want to return their drop heater who say they don't like the steam it gives. If you just throw the rocks in like most people do the steam will be horrible. Knowing where to put the large stones and where to put the small stones that lose their thermal mass quickly is what most people don't know. We have the Huum rocks that are 1 inch in size up to 4 inches in size. If buying a drop heater, if doing this wrong there can be a steam trap at the ceiling (brownian motion if you didn't learn that in high school physics. I would hope my Generation X should know this. If you buy the wrong size boxes of rocks you and don't set it up right you will NOT ENJOY YOUR HUUM DROP HEATER, ESPECIALLY THE LARGER 7.5 AND 9 KW MODELS.
ASK ABOUT SCRATCH N DENTS AND WRONG SIZE RETURN DROP HEATERS.
WE HAVE LOCAL PICKUP IN MANY STATES TO SAVE ON SHIPPING.
Local pickups have no sales tax or credit card fees and we take off the shipping that is normally included in our price.
These are the regular rocks. You can get extra small rocks and I can help you decide on which to get or combination of sizes.
Here is one box of rocks
that I separated
If you want the ultimate Huum sauna experience, I can open the Huum boxes of stones and hand pick the rock sizes and shapes based on what type of steam you prefer. I prefer 100% dryness fraction.
HUUM Hive heaters (Mini 6kw to 18kw)
The minis need 10 boxes of rocks and the Hive 12 to 18 needs 17 boxes of rocks.
We always give free shipping on heaters if buying a heater with a sauna.
I strongly recommend getting a mix of regular size rocks boxes and extra small rocks - if you just get 17 boxes of regular size you will not the get experience of high dryness fractions and latent heat. Hand picking the 3 inch versus the 4 inch stones makes a difference if you are going to just use the Hive heater for one session or keeping it on all day. So many people just throw in the 4 inch stones when they don't need to retain that extra heat and all this does is take longer for the sauna to heat up and people get upset waiting so long when this could have been prevented.
HUUM Cliff heaters
I rarely sell these so I won't write too much about them. I probably sell 1 of these a month if that since I started selling Huum heaters.
If you want a Cliff heater it is a for a very different type of customer. If you prefer more of how the heaters looks over the type of heat and steam then get this one. I personally don't like it.
HUUM UKI controllers
If you need a controller for your Huum heater we stock the most of the black wifi controller. We have 2 ways of buying the black wifi controller (we have glass, gold, white, mirror also and even the local ones but most people who get the local end up returning it for the wifi).
Just so people know, IKI and Huum use the same controller. If you google IKI heater controller you will see HUUM controller show up everywhere. Many people don't like paying what everyone is charging for the controllers. I get the controllers from an IKI distributor much cheaper than I get them from my HUUM distributor. So, if you buy a drop or hive heater the heater will come from the Huum distributors I work with and the controller ships from my IKI distributor.
I usually have plenty of open box glass and local black controllers. Some people get the black wifi controller and then decide they want something more aesthetic. It is usually the husband buys the black wifi controller since it is their cheapest wifi and when the wife sees it she gets on the phone and wants to replace it usually with the glass controller. This happens all the time. I know exactly what the call is about before the wife even starts talking about replacement. It starts out like... we bought a drop or hive heater....
Take advantage of any returned controllers I have. Call to see what I have.
HUUM wood fired heaters - we have new and open box heaters - let us know when you call which one you want. Many people buy the Harvia wood fired heaters as they are much cheaper. We can call and see if there are any returned heaters at discounts when you call. I try to sell these before selling the new ones. I get much better deals on them. If you need a Huum wood fired stove usually of the of the 3 distributors I have will have an open box and hopefully it is the model that you are wanting.
I try to pick up most of the time when calls come in. If I am not in my partner will pick up. If you want to talk to me I am almost always available in the early mornings and late evenings when my 2 kids go to bed.
Don't call on Sundays. I am in church and family day. You can call Sunday evening after 8pm.
Know the 200 Rule for Traditional Saunas
The 200 rule is just a guideline for the optimal and most comfortable sauna experience. This is when the temperature and also the humidity percentage combined don’t exceed 200. If the temperature is at 170F, the humidity in the sauna should not exceed 30%. You can get a good humidity meter for 9 dollars on Amazon. You don’t need anything more fancy than this one. If the room goes over 200 you lose that feel good experience. It is not enjoyable to be in a room over 200 combined percentage. So many people buy the wrong size rocks if planning on pouring water on the HUUM sauna. Also, the higher the temperature the HUUM is at when the water is poured on the rocks the higher the dryness fraction and less condensate and humidity. So, if pouring water on a standard heater (not a HUUM BRAND), the humidity in the sauna is way higher based on pouring 1/3 of a cup of water on the rocks. So, if you pour the same amount of water at 230 degrees vs 195 degrees, pouring water on the rocks at the highest setting on a HUUM is exponentially more comfortable than any other brand that does not have this SGS certification to go to extreme temperatures. I have even experienced snow. If you are using the HUUM heater at the highest level and using it in the winter and open the sauna door and the freezing air comes in, since the dryness fraction at the hottest temperature makes the steam gassy, the steam will turn into ice or snow before it becomes condensate again. This stops the theory of Brownian motion. (It is OK. Most people in high school had no reason to remember what Brownian motion is but to pass their physics test. Note that the 200 score should be based where the hygrometer is. The ceiling will naturally be over 200 since heater rises and steam rises. I base this number on the thermocline in the sauna around my shoulder level.
If you have a 7 foot ceiling that is optimal. With a 7.5 foot ceiling, you can have a higher humidity level since the temperature is lower towards the shoulder level. When you get your sauna you will develop a preference. This is not something most people know about unless they are even aware of it or have been told about this. Those that have larger KW heaters like the Hive 15 or Hive 18 and are cranking their sauna up on high and pouring too much water on it, this will surpass 200 and it does NOT feel good. It’s kinda like being in the steam room and someone just poured ice water on the thermostat and then puts a cold rag over it and the steam room gets so hot that you need to get out. People at my gym get get upset and won’t tolerate that when some idiot that just joined comes in and does that. A ceiling that is higher will have a larger ceiling to floor temperature difference.
Floor Fan Biohack
The HUUM sauna already makes a standard single level bench feel more like sitting on the 2nd level bench since HUUM heaters go up to 230 while most heaters only go up to 195 degrees. For those that want whole body vasodilation and not just half body where just your head and upper body is being heated up and your feet on the floor and legs aren’t getting hot, having the 16 inch fan blow the floor thermocline's cool air and shoots it up and mixes it with the super hot heat trap at the ceiling where it’s at least 3 feet from where most people sit.
This brings the entire room into homeostasis within a few degrees. We take laser thermometers and before using the fan, the floor temperature and ceiling temperature are very far apart. Also, having the fan should shave about a dollar in electricity costs off each hour session since the super hot ceiling thermocline is pushed down and not trapped anymore. The higher the ceiling the more expensive the sauna sessions are.
Notice: if you get the wrong heater and don't size it right you will not have an ideal sauna experience. Most people that buy a heater and sauna are usually in the acceptable range. Talk to us about sizing your heater so your experience is in the ideal range. We have been doing this for over 25 years and usually know more about this than most people. About 50% of the people who call in to buy a heater want a different kw size than we recommend. We hope the kw size you want matches what we recommend.
